| Subject: | Re: Sprint, and Portland Velo. |
| Date: | 03/31/2008 09:56 PM |
| From: | r r <bikex..@hotmail.com> |
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Why must anyone that mentions or suggest any sort of change automatically becomes ostrosive (yes this is misspelled, but I'm too tired to figure it out right now and spell check is being cool) and criticized in OBRA land. Why not embrace the fact that we all think differently, and when someone thinks outside the box, to just think about it and consider it rather than instantly par-take in scrutinizing and attacking the person who is just merely throwing out a thought to just ponder over. It is really sad to see. Our OBRA is grand, making it probably the best state to race in. But nothing is ever perfect, and if someone steps up with an idea, it would benefit us all if its just merely considered. Maybe if one idea would be talked about in a non-bias, debatable manner, it would encourage more people to voice their ideas to be considered. Yes, a democracy in sense. But with people constantly being attacked and ridiculed on this chat, it makes it hard for anyone to even gain to courage to ask a simple question in fear of the wrath that will be released upon them. This is not an attack, so please do not right any sort of negative or attacking response back. Like we learned in elementary school, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Sometimes silence can be the strongest response. Thank you all for your time From: bikexcr@hotmail.com
Yes, yes they are. Is PIR not a race on the road? And if you watch any race on TV, its the pretty close to the same as PIR. And in some ways, having it narrow destroys such phenomenal spectacles of athleticism such as Robbie McEwin flatting in the final k's, not at the front, and using his team to come around the field and sprint to victory at the last second in stage one of TDF. Granted the TDF and OBRA is like comparing apples and oranges (so please dont go off on that tangent because i just confessed to the difference).
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:26:46 -0700
The issue seems to be that many of us don't do enough road racing. I don't anymore, but use too in the midwest . If I wanted a chance at top ten in a field sprint i would start moving
In a real road race, ie POC, if the pack is bunched and your 2 k from the line and not in the first 3 or 4 lines, you don't stand a chance, ok slight maybe only if someone jumps soon and things open (i would usually be the guy sitting in 3rd line praying someone would jump things would open and soon). If you come up on 500 m and still bunched, and not in the first two maybe three lines, you really don't stand a chance even if your a great sprinter. Pros coming with lead out trains, thats not really controlling the pack, rather its power and speed and everyone trying to stay with or trying to get by with their own line. PIR finishing tactics are not on the same planet as road racing finish tactics. ----- Original
Ok. All this finger pointing is kinda lame. Personally, I've found PV riders are always willing to jump in the mix, help out, and work together. They're always willing to share the work, and race with class. I've never had a truely negative experience from them while racing. It sucks being a solo rider and having a larger team or two try and controll the race. It's fruterating as hell. In the end, if you're smart, that experience as a solo rider will most likely make you a better racer. now on to.... I don't think openeing the road before 200m would make anything safer to begin with. You'd just have more people with more space to get reckless in. Wide roads may make it easier to get around when you're cruising in the low to mid 20's, but when the pace picks up it strings out anyways, and one lane is plenty. As far as moving up is concerned. yeah, it sucks when there's not movement up front and the pace drops,
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