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Subject: Re: Sprint
Date: 03/31/2008 02:33 PM
From: Leibowitz, Flo <fleibowi..@oregonstate.edu>

Did anyone see Cancellera's final 2 k in Milan San Remo this year? He
attacked so he didn't have to contend with the sprinters (or even the
other guys in the break), and it worked. It doesn't always, and if the
leadout trains hadn't got lost, it might not have worked. But I think he
decided to do what he could to not just let the same old pattern take
shape (i.e., leadout trains control the pack and anyone else is outta
luck).

Easy for me to say, since I have never had to race with a group as large
as the 4/5 men. But, boy, it sure was exciting to see it on TV. Life
imitates tv maybe?

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mark J. Ginsberg
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:22 AM
To: OBRA MAIL LIST
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Sprint

or be closer to the front say with 2.0 k to go, then watch all the
people behind you who weren't thinking ahead. (but maybe don't look back
until AFTER the finish line) :-)

pro teams start lining up their guys with what 10K to go. We need to
think further back from the finish than 0.2K to go.

Mark Ginsberg

r r wrote:

After being in the sprints and listening about what happened, say at
POC, it makes me think, why wait till 200m to open the road. This may be
a pointless email, because its probably due to permits for road use and
what the county is willing to give.

But if thats not the case, opening the road up at 500 or 700m would seem
to help aliviate a lot of the problem that occur at the sprint. The
problem with waiting till 200m is: everyone is bunched up and antsy,
fighting for position, but unable to move because a single lane of a
road is too narrow for any sort of organization to occur in what
essentially becomes a cluster f#3k. Pardon my French, i could not figure
out another word to express that.

Having a little more road to work with would probably help to cut down
the recent issues of crossing the yellow line too early and the elbowing
and the cursin at each other. We all know what its like waiting for that
200m line. Its choatic. If there were a little more space, things would
work more smoothly. Granted things will still happen, but having more
road to work with, such as the pros get, would just help things to go
more smoothly.

That is, if this is not a restriction of permits from the county in
which the race is in.

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