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Generally, most people feel it mkeans they are getting older. Most people do not note their 35th birthday, but traditionally do seem to think of their getting old when they hit 40.
Anyway, a Masters category should apply to those who are middle age or older, and 40 seems like a good arbitrary point for that. When I was in my 30's, I did not feel that was the case. Also, if you note, there are professional racers still winning major races past 35, so it would argue that it is a bit early to consider them beyond the point where there need to race in a category for older racers.
Also, as a final matter, in Masters, there is a large number of racers in their 50's. People, who are 35 to 39 for some reason do not want to race against 25 year olds, who are only 10 year's their junior. Why then would you think people in their 50's want to race against 35 year olds who are 15 to 20 years their junior. A 40 year cut off balances the two a bit better.
Enjoy your youth. I would love to be 35.
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George Schreck
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From: "Gordon Cumming"
What is so special about 40?
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:40 PM
To: David Hart; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
This is essentially a problem that takes care of itself. Everyone get older and eventually can race masters. We changed the rules last year and it seemdd to work well. The masters fields were fairly large and will get larger as OBRA ages. There is little reason to accelerate it. What is so special about 35. Just race your category until you are 40. In running, you are not considered a Masters until you are 40, and no one seems to whine about it.
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George Schreck
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From: "David Hart"
Hmm, that MAY be worth trying (can't please everyone as proven by the length of this thread). I would rather race 35+ 2/3. This would leave the 4's to race w/5's(they are more 4's & 5's lately). I plan on being at the banquet, you just have to bring it up for discussion, get a vote and go from there OR just convince organizers to have this field. However this doesn't mirror other races like Hood or Elkhorn or Cascade & so forth in categories. I basically race the OBRA calendar with an Elkhorn or Hood thrown in there so here is what I think.
The number of OBRA members could support the following:
Pro 1/2
2/3 masters 35+
3's
4/5
Masters 4/5
1/2/3 women
masters women open
JR's
single speed or tandem or HPV or whatever minority that you are...
On 12/30/06, Gordon Cumming wrote:
Mike,
If that is the case, why not have a 35+ 2/3 category, it could even be 30-39
1/2/3 and then 40+.
Seems like the numbers are their.
Gordie
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto: obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 7:08 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
There are often references to the mythic 18 yo bike racer. Frankly there
are not many of them. Most are slower category. From the end of this year
the age distribution of road members was:
2 0to24 133
25to29 264
30to34 398
35to39 466
40to44 371
45to49 266
50to54 148
55to59 74
60to64 34
65+ 24
Here are the mean ages by road category:
1 33
2 36
3 38
4 36
5 36
Overall the mean OBRA membership age is 37. 35+ is most of us.
Mike Murray
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Edward Kendrick Sr
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 06:48 AM
To: ob ra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
Yes. It would be nice to have the 35+ category.
Most of the riders, who act their age, choose to ride cat 4 or 5. This is
awkward, when there are 18 yr olds competing with you.
Did you know that a big chunk of the Arctic shelf broke off today?
Anyway, Feliz Ano Nuevo.
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From: Dave Campbell
To: obra
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:08:39 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
Just going to throw this totally self-interested bit out there...
VERY few races last yr had a Masters 35 plus, with most going 40 plus
Was this trend well-recieved by riders? I see that Cherry Pie (and my guess
is most of the others that follow) is going Masters 40 plus and the promoter
(who is well experienced!) assures me this is the way to go.
For ME at this point, the 35 plus races are FUN (although due to triathlon,
I personally only do a few and mainly for training) and I can actually race
as opposed to the Cat1/2 race which I just try to survive and I would assume
there are others that feel the same way...the question is ARE THERE ENOUGH
like minded 35-39s like me?
Anyone?
Thanks,
DC
Dave Campbell
adcampbell46@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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