I think Mikes point is clear the super young racers are almost a non factor this is a masters racers environment, with masters capable of competing in all open categories. Not just competitive but winning many of the events, this benefits all, young and slightly aged( enough old guy already) OBRA has a unique opportunity with the wealth of masters experience that has allowed us to groom younger racers for bigger events. Even our out of town racers have found this a super competitive race scene, let alone the number of masters NATS this year. AS far as support yes indeed masters are OBRA so whatever it take to get a format that works for racers and promoters let's getter' done
----- Original Message -----
From: J.Michael Manning
To: mike.murray@obra.org ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?

It seems everybody is concerned about who is best represented in the various races...these numbers are a good place to start. The 30 somethings are certainly the largest segment of racers represented, but I can't help but wonder if they are actually so well represented at the races. It would be interesting to know how these numbers add up in terms of actual race participation. Perhaps the "old" guys are more consistent in their participation in OBRA events than the younger guys and thus do more to support the local racing scene.
Mike Manning

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> From: mike.murray@obra.org
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:08:01 -0800
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
>
> There are often references to the mythic 18 yo bike racer. Frankly there
> are not many of them. Most are slower category. From the end of this year
> the age distribution of road members was:
>
>
> 20to24 133
> 25to29 264
> 30to34 398
> 35to39 466
> 40to44 371
> 45to49 266
> 50to54 148
> 55to59 74
> 60to64 34
> 65+ 24
>
> Here are the mean ages by road category:
>
> 1 33
> 2 36
> 3 38
> 4 36
> 5 36
>
> Overall the mean OBRA membership age is 37. 35+ is most of us.
>
> Mike Murray
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Edward Kendrick Sr
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 06:48 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
>
>
> Yes. It would be nice to have the 35+ category.
>
> Most of the riders, who act their age, choose to ride cat 4 or 5. This is
> awkward, when there are 18 yr olds competing with you.
>
> Did you know that a big chunk of the Arctic shelf broke off today?
>
> Anyway, Feliz Ano Nuevo.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dave Campbell
> To: obra
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:08:39 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
>
>
> Just going to throw this totally self-interested bit out there...
>
> VERY few races last yr had a Masters 35 plus, with most going 40 plus
> Was this trend well-recieved by riders? I see that Cherry Pie (and my guess
> is most of the others that follow) is going Masters 40 plus and the promoter
> (who is well experienced!) assures me this is the way to go.
>
> For ME at this point, the 35 plus races are FUN (although due to triathlon,
> I personally only do a few and mainly for training) and I can actually race
> as opposed to the Cat1/2 race which I just try to survive and I would assume
> there are others that feel the same way...the question is ARE THERE ENOUGH
> like minded 35-39s like me?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Thanks,
> DC
> Dave Campbell
> adcampbell46@earthlink.net
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