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Subject: RE: Dogs at Mt. Tabor Park
Date: 06/28/2001 12:54 AM
From: cumm-@ucs.orst.edu
Oh John you naive ladd. Didn't you know conservative and moderate
politicians understand the law, and their love or is it disdain for
regulations? I'm often confused myself.

I am curious what the environmental concern was for not having an off-leash
area at Mt. Tabor . Seems that un-leashed dogs are similar to drug dealers,
and car thieves when looking at community livability. Must admit that is
quite a dog!

GC

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bravard [mailto:jbra-@pacifier.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:18 AM
To: Phil Harden
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Dogs at Mt. Tabor Park


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 for enforcement. The only solution is a massive settlement from a
successful law suit. The only thing that liberal politicians will
understand is an order from a judge. The duly enacted laws don't mean a

Pardon my political naivety, but what are the things that conservative or
moderate politicians understand?

JB



On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Phil Harden wrote:

 Let me set the record straight. THERE IS NO OFF LEASH AREA IN MT. TABOR PARK!!!!!! How do I know this. My wife was on the planning committee that
decided how improvement monies were to be spent. I also attended 2 or 3
meetings and lobbied hard against an off leash area. The reason for no off
leash area is environmental. Therefore, if 5 people were selling drugs on
the street corner in front of your house everyday at 5:30pm, how long would
you put up with that. When would you call the police? If people repeatedly
stole your car or your neighbor's car every day at 5:30pm, how long would
you put up with that. The point is this. According to the city and the
elected officials, there is not any money for enforcement. The only
solution is a massive settlement from a successful law suit. The only thing
that liberal politicians will understand is an order from a judge. The duly
enacted laws don't mean a thing to our city government. I have tried for
years to get something done about the dogs in Mt. Tabor Park. And this was
when I was part of the group that originally organized the summer series,
not the Mt Tabor Crit. But I bet they have experienced many of the same
problems.
 Thanks,
Phil Harden
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