Injured folks should respond to this... You can't ride very fast in a wheelchair. OBRA doesn't allow wheelchairs in races. This makes Cat. 3 and Masters look pretty good, but I am no longer old enough to race Masters, in Oregon. Since I can't afford to spend half of my life recovering from broken bones, just let me know when you're coming through?!...

Eric Kytola wrote: Maybe cat 4's and cat 5's shouldn't get placed in the finish at all. It
would be like a big fast group ride. They could work on their pack
skills without worrying about competing. That way climbers won't have
advantage on hills, sprinters won't have an advantage at 1K and strong
guys won't need to break away. Dang! You wouldn't even need teams!

Everyone could just clap for them as they ride through the "ending" line
in mass. Heck, you wouldn't even have to ride fast.

Shucker?

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Schreck, George
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:39 PM
To: Duncan Calver; jonathan@bikeportland.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Crash Cat 4 Cherry Pie

I guess I am not very impressed by people who race for 200 meters, but
my real issues is people who try to force their way through when they
are out of position. You may get away with it at the skill level of the
pros, but at the amateur level it is too risky. People are not as used
to getting bumped and staying upright, and we do not get paid for taking
these risks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Calver [mailto:duncancalver@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:22 PM
To: jonathan@bikeportland.org; Schreck, George; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Crash Cat 4 Cherry Pie

I always thought that's how Cippollini and Petacchi won all those
races...I'm sure more than a few of us try to emulate the pro
methods...don't knock the sprinters who sit back all day...they ARE very

fast for 100m...much faster than me, which is why I get the hell out of
the
way. All's fair in racing...keep the rubber side down and play it
safe...

D

>From: "Jonathan Maus"
>To: ,
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Crash Cat 4 Cherry Pie
>Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:35:38 -0800
>
>On 2/22/2006 2:26:38 PM, Schreck, George
(george.schreck@pacificorp.com)
>wrote:
> > It is a bit ridiculous that guys who sit in the back all day and do
no
> > work, suddenly think that they deserve to sprint for the win and try
to
> > force their way to the front at the end. If you want to be near the
> > front at the end, ride near the front during the race and do some
work.
> > If you want to ride in the back all day, then just roll in with the
pack
> > and consider it a workout.
>
>I think we need to be careful about telling people how they should
race.
>In my opinion, everyone has a right to contest the finish, regardless
of
>where they are in the pack, or how they've ridden all day. That's what

>racing is all about. Sitting back all day and going like hell at the
end
>is a strategy for some people (I don't agree with it but that doesn't
mean
>it's not OK).
>
>Yes, safety and smarts are the key, but no one can say who has the
right to
>go for the win at the end.
>
>--Jonathan
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