| Subject: | RE: Indoor Velodrome?? |
| Date: | 01/31/2006 10:57 AM |
| From: | Keith A. Prior |
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Desperation always overrides logic i.e. Oregon revenue shortfall. -K -----Original Message----- From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:46 AM To: ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? I love it when logic seeps in. -----Original Message----- From: cmur-@obra.org [mailto:cmur-@obra.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:42 AM To: ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Come on guys, if the horse racing program in Portland was not self sustaining, how can betting on bikes works? -----Original Message----- From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:31 AM To: sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com; toka-@ix.netcom.com Cc: ob-@topica.com Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Grand Ron has been the most interested. From: Steve Brown <sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com> Reply-To: sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com To: toka-@ix.netcom.com CC: ob-@topica.com Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:02:46 -0800 Keith, Thats what I'm talking about. Does anyone know anyone at any of the Tribes? Steve Brown On Jan 30, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Keith A. Prior wrote: We gotta do what the Japanese do. Make it interesting!! Were talking GAMBLING baby! Oregon is all about pulling in the revenues any way it can! Someone should pitch it to the Native Tribes and the crooks in Salem! -Keith -----Original Message----- From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:05 AM To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net; mc-@gorge.net Cc: ob-@topica.com; mike.m-@obra.org Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? I think what is missing is what europeans already know, as much fun as a road race can be, it pales in comparison to the spectator friendly confines of a velodrome. At best if you were part of a Tour team or press corps you might get to watch some or most of the action. one has only to look at Madison Square Garden circa 1905 to see this sport brought the action to the fan. I think in terms of athlete commitment the US is falling behind the world simply because of a lack of marketing a global sport. regardless of past attempts, in sport/marketing timing is everything this could be one of the best reality shows on TV. So again anyone with corporate sponsorship I'm ready to produce American Kerin and track racing as a wager sport in the US. Thats right wager, track racers make nothing especially compared to a 50K purse offered a hundred years ago for a scratch race. Who wouldn't want to see the US battle Russia or China or Japan in all out Keirin racing oh wait France( Since they only had themselves to race at the World Cup finished 1-2 in the sprints). Long story short if you build it they will come, pay them well and they will stay and others will want to be like them. No offense roadies, but Lance is already leading the road parade. From: RCJoh-@attglobal.net Reply-To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net To: mc-@gorge.net CC: ob-@topica.com, mike.m-@obra.org Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:30:59 -0800 Sounds to me like a "which came first / chicken or egg" situation. Until there's an indoor option there's a whole lot of people that will be riding somewhere else (or not at all). I live in Bend and therefore don't see myself driving 6 hours to ride a track anytime soon. But, if it were in my town the only time I'd be interested in track riding is indoors in the winter. I think it's a pretty near universal thing that most of us ride in great part for the pleasure of being outdoors, and never more so than when the weather is nice. The great attraction of an indoor track is on the days when it's too rainy, cold, snowy, icy or dark to have much fun outside. Then a track becomes the preferred option over the mind numbing bore of trainer pedaling. So, I think it's safe to say that with an indoor track you could expect to see a lot more interest through the winter. Enough to meet the financial needs? Still doubtful, an important piece of the puzzle none the less. Rick martin cohen wrote: I agree. Let's see current usage/spectatorship increase before going further. I raced there 2 years ago, Fast Twitch Fridays, and in the beginner field there were at most 8-10 racers. Considering that could have included on-the-road cat 3-5, that's not alot. I drove 1.5 hours from Hood River, and I knew of at least 1 other guy who came up from Corvallis. Where the homies at?!! I'd rather see the resources go into re-paving the current track. Then again, if an indoor track would market/allow contests such as rollerblading,skateboarding, or roller derby, it might have a chance. Marty mike.m-@obra.org wrote: Most of the posts to this list on this subject have come from people that don't use the velodrome that we are already lucky enough to have. The first step in supporting the idea of an indoor velodrome would be to come to events at the current outdoor velodrome. Even better would be to support it by helping with organizing programs or finding sponsorship. As use of the current velodrome grows the possibility of supporting an indoor velodrome becomes much more likely. To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com Steve Brown Steve Brown Company Inc. 6435 SW Parkhill Drive Portland, Oregon 97239 503.293.1683 503.293.6009f 503.781.3631c sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. 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