| Subject: | Re: Indoor Velodrome?? |
| Date: | 01/29/2006 06:13 PM |
| From: | Josh Wiggins |
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--Apple-Mail-1--781305787 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed For training at ADT in LA where I now live - it is anywhere from =20 $10-20 a session with the ability to buy passes and also get =20 discounts if you are a member of a club or team that helps at the track. You can pretty much train there most days a week if you wish. Also unless you are a cat 1 or pro track rider you have to take a =20 certification class which is $65 to be able to ride it regardless of =20 how many track races you have done. They also have the rule if you go down on the track in a session you =20 go home. It is a fun place to race and train all year long, it would be great =20 to see an indoor track in portland. Josh On Jan 29, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Doug Hormann wrote: My pessimistic side is showing, I know, but am I the only one who =20 thinks that a covered velodrome would likely result a greatly =20 increased cost to ride on it? Having a board track that could be set =20 up in Memorial Colliseum sounds great, but it wouldn't be available =20 for training or without a hefty fee to ride. Also, board tracks are =20 notoriously maintenance intensive. Having watched the carpenter come =20 out and repair the track every time someone crashed at last year's =20 world's in LA was an eye opener. My understanding is that the Carson =20 track in LA is also very expensive for clubs, or individuals to ride. Doug Hormann -----Original Message----- From: J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:07 PM To: ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Another idea that might appeal to Nike is to design an indoor racing =20 track inside the velodrome. 250 meters is the distance of many top =20 notch indoor velodromes. 200 meters is the standard for indoor =20 running tracks, and perhaps it could be designed so that the running =20 track fit inside the velodrome - i.e. an efficient footprint. =20 Proposing both of these at the same location might heighten the =20 appeal to a company that is still more of a running company than a =20 cycling company. (Although I must admit that their new cycling shoes =20 are great.) Just my 2 cent - John Bravard Luciano bailey <ride-@hotmail.com> wrote: The state of the Art is late the ADT Center will be hard to out do .I =20= still believe the answer is the Memorial Coliseum any Nike Execs out there or title people of any sort please step up. From: Duncan Calver Reply-To: duncan-@msn.com To: patrickin-@yahoo.com, ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:25:16 -0800 A cover for Alpenrose would be cool, but...we should be able to go =20 bigger than that: Now, I'm not a trackie, but this issue has been on my brain for a =20 while... I've been wondering why a big company like Nike (for instance) hasn't stepped up to build a new state of the art indoor velodrome in an old warehouse or something DOWNTOWN/Portland proper. Portland is the =20 biggest cycling town in the US, has a huge contingent of track racers, and our sport obviously needs to grow and build viewership/coverage. =20 Alpenrose is great, but hardly anybody who doesn't race knows about it, and =20 that's why the attendance for spectators is so low (also, they don't allow =20 alcohol on the premises - generally a big minus for spectators). A new indoor velodrome w/liquor license/band venue would be an insanely cool =20 addition to Portland culture. They've got lots of these in Europe...any thoughts? D From: patrick wilder Reply-To: patrickin-@yahoo.com To: obra Subject: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome?? Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:33:46 -0800 (PST) I'm sure this topic has come up before but I'm wondering what the logistics of having an Indoor track would be. Seems like with all =20 this rain we'd get tons of people riding in the winter. Could some sort of cover be built over the current track? Sort of =20= like those big structures you see on HW 30 by the train yards. Granted this is coming from a guy who has NEVER rode the current =20 track. I think I'd be more inclined when the weather gets bad. Ideas, feedback??? ~Patrick ------------- __o ---------- _ '\<,, ----------(_)/ (_)____________________________ --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. 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To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com --Apple-Mail-1--781305787 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">For training at ADT in LA where = I now live - it is anywhere from $10-20 a session with the ability to = buy passes and also get discounts if you are a member of a club or team = that helps at the track.<DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You can pretty much train = there most days a week if you wish.</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Also unless you are a cat 1 = or pro track rider you have to take a=A0certification class which is $65 = to be able to ride it regardless of how many track races you have = done.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>They = also have the rule if you go down on the track in a session you go = home.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>It is a = fun place to race and train all year long, it would be great to see an = indoor track in portland.</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Josh</DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On = Jan 29, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Doug Hormann wrote:</DIV><BR = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <DIV><SPAN = class=3D"171211620-29012006"><FONT face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" = size=3D"2">My pessimistic side is showing, I know, but am I the only one = who thinks that a covered velodrome would likely result a greatly = increased cost to ride on it? Having a board track that could be set up = in Memorial Colliseum sounds great, but it wouldn't be available for = training or without a hefty fee to ride. Also, board tracks are = notoriously maintenance intensive. Having watched the carpenter come out = and repair the track every time someone crashed at last year's world's = in LA=A0was an eye opener. My understanding is that the Carson track in = LA is also very expensive for clubs, or individuals to = ride.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D"171211620-29012006"><FONT = face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></FONT></SPAN>=A0</DIV> = <DIV><SPAN class=3D"171211620-29012006"><FONT face=3D"Arial" = color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Doug Hormann</FONT></SPAN></DIV> = <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV = class=3D"OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><FONT = face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> J = Bravard [<A = href=3D"mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com">mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com</A>]<BR><B>Sent= :</B> Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> = RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV = id=3D"RTEContent"> <BLOCKQUOTE class=3D"replbq" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: = 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV = id=3D"RTEContent">Another idea that might appeal to Nike is to design an = indoor racing track inside the velodrome. 250 meters is the distance = of many top notch indoor velodromes. 200 meters is the standard for = indoor running tracks, and perhaps it could be designed so that the = running track fit inside the velodrome - i.e. an efficient = footprint. Proposing both of these at the same location might = heighten the appeal to a company that is still more of a running = company than a cycling company. (Although I must admit that their = new cycling shoes are great.)<BR><BR>Just my 2 cent -<BR>John = Bravard<BR><BR><BR><B><I>Luciano bailey <<A = href=3D"mailto:ride-@hotmail.com">ride-@hotmail.com</A>></I></B> = wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=3D"replbq" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">The state = of the Art is late the ADT Center will be hard to out do .I still = <BR>believe the answer is the Memorial Coliseum any Nike Execs out there = or <BR>title people of any sort please step = up.<BR><BR><BR><BR>>From: Duncan Calver <BR>>Reply-To: = <A = href=3D"mailto:duncan-@msn.com">duncan-@msn.com</A><BR>>To: = <A = href=3D"mailto:patrickin-@yahoo.com">patrickin-@yahoo.com</A= , <A = href=3D"mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A><BR>>Subject: RE: = [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??<BR>>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 = 13:25:16 -0800<BR>><BR>>A cover for Alpenrose would be cool, = but...we should be able to go bigger <BR>>than = that:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Now, I'm not a trackie, but this = issue has been on my brain for a while...<BR>><BR>>I've been = wondering why a big company like Nike (for instance) hasn't = <BR>>stepped up to build a new state of the art indoor velodrome in = an old <BR>>warehouse or something DOWNTOWN/Portland proper. = Portland is the biggest <BR>>cycling town in the US, has a huge = contingent of track racers, and our <BR>>sport obviously needs = to grow and build viewership/coverage. Alpenrose is <BR>>great, = but hardly anybody who doesn't race knows about it, and that's why = <BR>>the attendance for spectators is so low (also, they don't = allow alcohol on <BR>>the premises - generally a big minus for = spectators). A new indoor <BR>>velodrome w/liquor license/band = venue would be an insanely cool addition to <BR>>Portland = culture. They've got lots of these in Europe...any = thoughts?<BR>><BR>>D<BR>><BR>>>From: patrick wilder = <BR>>>Reply-To: <A = href=3D"mailto:patrickin-@yahoo.com">patrickin-@yahoo.com</A= <BR>>>To: obra <BR>>>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Indoor = Velodrome??<BR>>>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:33:46 -0800 = (PST)<BR>>><BR>>> I'm sure this topic has come up before but = I'm wondering what the <BR>>>logistics of having an Indoor = track would be. Seems like with all this <BR>>>rain we'd get = tons of people riding in the winter.<BR>>><BR>>> Could = some sort of cover be built over the current track? Sort of like = <BR>>>those big structures you see on HW 30 by the train = yards.<BR>>><BR>>> Granted this is coming from a guy = who has NEVER rode the current track. <BR>>> I think I'd be = more inclined when the weather gets bad.<BR>>><BR>>> = Ideas, = feedback???<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>~Patrick<BR>>= ;>------------- __o<BR>>>---------- _ = '\<,,<BR>>>----------(_)/ = (_)____________________________<BR>>><BR>>>-------------------= --------------<BR>>><BR>>> What are the most popular = cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos<BR>><BR>>To respond to the = whole group send to <A = href=3D"mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A>.<BR>>To respond = to the list manager send to <A = href=3D"mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</A><BR>>To = unsubscribe send to <A = href=3D"mailto:obra-uns-@topica.com">obra-uns-@topica.com</A= <BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR>_________________________________________= ________________________<BR>Don=EF=BF=BDt just search. Find. 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