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Subject: Re: Car V race rules?
Date: 02/28/2001 12:33 AM
From: Demian Godon
I agree that prizes/money aren't really a necessity for the lower
classes. However, I kind of agree with a couple other comments in that
I'm not sure why they should be explicitly restricted. As was stated
this seems like it should be at the discretion of the promoter; maybe
their particular race is able to effectively use prizes/money to make the
race more successful. As a racer, I'm not going to complain about
getting prizes or money. But, in general, if I were a promoter I would
be pretty convinced by your arguments that I wouldn't need to offer
much/anything to have a successful race. In fact, I might even be more
successful without. Again, though, why explicitly restrict?

I think it would be good to offer some kind of recognition for series
races (such as PIR, OBRA pts, Mt Tabor, etc.) even for the lower cats. I
don't think it has to be anything big, but I think it's nice to reward
that commitment and consistency (we want people coming back). Something
like a trophy or jersey maybe. Although just finishing many races is
accomplishment enough, appropriate prizes can re-inforce that sense of
accomplishment when you do well; it's the recognition more than getting
compensated.

-Demian

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:08:49 -0800 mmur-@teleport.com writes:
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OBRA does not have a similar rule limiting prizes for Cat 5. I
personally
would be in favor of a rule that limited Cat 4/5 races to medals,
ribbons,
etc. (items of minimal economic value), Cat 3 races limited to
merchandise
and Pro/Cat 1/2 races may receive cash. The race designation would
be by
the fastest category in the race, e.g. riders in a Cat 2/3 could win
cash.
What does everyone else think?

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Beall [mailto:peteb-@home.com]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 16:18 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Car V race rules?


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One reason for having a combined IV/V field in a USCF race is rule
1F5(a)
that prohibits any prize of commercial value being awarded to a cat
V race.
What's the OBRA take on this rule?

Pete Beall

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----- Original Message -----
From: <mmur-@teleport.com>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Giving cat 3's a choice ...


 As to the idea making life for new riders (Cat 5) easier, I am in full
 agreement. Last year when I asked people about what kept them from going
to
 more events I received several comments from people that went to their
first
 race, generally a 4/5 field, and got blown out the back in short order.
 They then concluded that they were not fit enough to be bike racers and
 didn't come back. Usually I get blown out fairly quickly the first few
 races of the year too but I have been doing this long enough to know that
 eventually I will be going OK later in the season. Beginning riders do
not
 have the benefit of that experience. I think if we want the sport to grow
 it is essential that organizers try to offer some field that will be
 accessible to the beginning racer. Let's have some more Cat 5 only and
Cat
 4 women races.

Mike Murray

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