| Subject: | Code of Conduct enough already |
| Date: | 01/26/2005 04:53 AM |
| From: | mark duff |
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_d8_1fda_2912 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ok my delete key is starting to wear out! We are all adults and we should no the laws of the road. If we abide by them, all is fine. Yes there is extreme cases with problem stoplight triggers/sensors and all, but really we know if we are breaking a law or not...can we please move on....maybe even go ride our bikes. Cheers Mark From: Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com> Reply-To: murphy_-@hotmail.com To: ob-@topica.com, shi-@lists.riseup.net Subject: RE: [shift] Re: [OBRA Chat] Code of Conduct (long, but hopefully worth your tim Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:37:26 -0800 ------=_NextPart_000_d8_1fda_2912 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-SID-PRA: Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com> X-SID-Result: SoftFail X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEqc/YxMjp29kpqQZJDiqv1Pve3wi3pBCk= Received: from out006.topica-platinum-y.com ([66.227.60.26]) by mc3-f37.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:38:15 -0800 Return-Path: <murphy_-@hotmail.com> Received: (qmail 14215 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2005 20:38:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.31.13) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 20:38:06 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:38:02 -0800 Received: from 206.169.232.146 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:37:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [206.169.232.146] X-Originating-Email: [murphy_-@hotmail.com] X-Sender: murphy_-@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <02E94C19C5F2A6409572-@pdot65.trans.city> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2005 20:38:02.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE0D0800:01C503E6] To: ob-@topica.com, shi-@lists.riseup.net From: Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [shift] Re: [OBRA Chat] Code of Conduct (long, but hopefully worth your tim Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:37:26 -0800 Message-ID: <62365179-1463792638-1106771891@boing.topica.com> Errors-To: <QxZarwEJATBP5cI-@boing.topica.com> Reply-To: murphy_-@hotmail.com X-Topica-Id: <1106771886.inmta008.topica.com.19485.1413086> List-Help: <http://topica.com/lists/obra@topica.com/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:obra-uns-@topica.com> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE> <P>A moving violation is a moving violation. Are they going to up the fines on large trucks that run red lights? The big truck's impact to public safety is much greater than a honda Civic's. <BR><BR><BR>Pete Murphy </P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Smith, Jeff" <Jeff.-@pdxtrans.org> <DIV></DIV>>To: 'Peter Murphy' <murphy_-@hotmail.com>, ob-@topica.com,shi-@lists.riseup.net <DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [shift] Re: [OBRA Chat] Code of Conduct (long, but hopefully worth your time) <DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:48:27 -0800 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>I agree, Pete --- except that as it currently stands the fine for a cyclist <DIV></DIV>>& a motorist running a red light is exactly the same. Which, when viewed in <DIV></DIV>>terms of the risk to public safety, is ridiculous. Fine schedules for <DIV></DIV>>traffic violations were increased in the last legislative session, with (for <DIV></DIV>>Portland at least) the increased income devoted to a traffic safety fund <DIV></DIV>>(for enforcement, education, & some engineering). In the current <DIV></DIV>>legislature i saw last week a bill had been introduced in the State Senate <DIV></DIV>>to reduce the traffic fines on cyclists --- an excellent idea. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>jeff <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Pete wrote: <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Advocate for heavier traffic fines and prosecution of the people who break <DIV></DIV>>the law. This includes cyclists. If a cyclist blows a red light and gets <DIV></DIV>>caught, fine 'em, but also fine the car that did not come to a complete stop <DIV></DIV>>beore making a right turn on a red light. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>_________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>The homepage for this list can be found at http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/shift <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>People may unsubscribe by sending mail to <DIV></DIV>>shift-uns-@lists.riseup.net <DIV></DIV></div><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com</PRE> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_d8_1fda_2912-- |
