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Subject: Re: Road rage. What to do...?
Date: 09/29/2004 04:29 AM
From: david baker

When I am on the road I try to be as courteous as posible to other traffic,
whether I am in a car or on a bike. If I am going the speed limit on my bike
I do not ride in the center of the road, in fact the only time I ride in the
center of the road is just before entering a traffic circle. Just the same
way that if I am driving a car the speed limit I know other people may want
to go faster. I allways stay as far to the right as logical and let whomever
might be wanting to pass me make that descision for themselves. Whether or
not I get upset with their pass depends on the width of the road, size of
their vehicle(or bike), their speed, my speed, road conditions, etc. I leave
it is up to the passer to determine since I do not allways know all of those
factors.
I have seen a lot of rage between cyclists and car drivers and think both
sides need to try to understand where the other side is coming from. He may
have gotten mad just for what he saw as an arrogant jesture of blocking the
road, and may not have passed, or gotten mad, if you were on the right side.
There is no excuse for his reaction of braking and or moving into your way.
I have gotten upset with drivers before because some of them do not seem to
understand that if is not safe to pass you just do not pass, period. But to
assume they are all that way will continue to escalate this bad
relationship.
I do not mean to minimalize the severity of his anger issues, just trying
to promote ways for us all to get along.
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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Road rage. What to do...?


 Hey fellow two wheelers,
I need the the legal advise of anybody willing to give it.
I was riding with 2 other guys on Saturday and had a "run-in" with an
ANGRY driver.
It was between Fairhaven and HWY 26 on Skyline. We were coming down the
hill (doing 25-30mph...it's a 25 zone) and this guy was riding our wheel
so close and trying to pass on every bend. We were in the middle of the
lane--as we were doing the speed limit. Also because I've ridden up that
rode and enough others to know that he could very well pass us into the
on-coming lane and hit some other riders head-on or a car with a family in
it or whatever. That's why there is a double yellow line there.
Anyways, we got to the bottom of the hill where it opens up a bit and he
came right up next to me and slams on his brakes to cut me off, forcing me
to lock up my rear wheel and fish tail. I managed to stay upright. A
yelling match ensued (he had 2 boys in the car with him-probably between
9-13 yrs old-I bet they were proud of ole' dad) and then he took off
proudly waving his middle finger out of his convertible beamer.
I called the Police right away and they said since nothing happened (no
contact damage or injury) there was nothing they could do. What I needed
to do was call the DMV and they would send him a letter.
So, I call the DMV and guess what? You got it. They say "I don't know
why they would tell you that, we're not an enforcement agency".
I would like to send message to this guy and remind him there are laws
and that he's driving around a car with a license plate on it. It's easy
to find out who you are.
WHat can I do?
Thanks for your help. ENjoy the ride!
Chris

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