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Subject: Re: FW: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not to weaken Colum
Date: 08/31/2004 04:20 AM
From: Peter Murphy

The government tells you want you can and cannot do to your land all the
time....It is called zoning regulations and building codes...

I've been to Paris and have driven through it. The traffic was bad. But it
wasn't that bad until there was a transit strike, then all hell broke loose.
Or rather jammed in. The pollution also partially stems from the lax
emmission controls.

Have driven in NYC during the Thanksgiving holidays. Not bad, kind of fun.
The worse drive is driving the Long Island Expressway trying to get to the
suburbs.

Pete Murphy


 From: snjr <sn-@charter.net>
Reply-To: sn-@charter.net
To: djsh-@comcast.net, ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FW: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not
to weaken Colum
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:47:04 -0700

Doug wrote: "Maybe I've got it all wrong but, if you "push an ever
increasing population into a confined area" people might be more inclined
to not drive?"

Have you been to some of Europe's bigger cities? They have traffic and
pollution issues as well. Until urban planners stop designing cities to
accommodate cars, and design them to accommodate people, cities will not be
great places to live. Cramming people into tighter spaces designed for
cars is called New York City.

"Call me un American but, there are lots of alternatives to sitting behind
the steering wheel of your car."

There is nothing un American about not driving your car. There is however
something un American about telling other Americans what they can or cannot
do with their own property in an attempt to appease a minority of people.

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