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Subject: Re: FW: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not to weaken Colum
Date: 08/31/2004 04:20 AM
From: djsh-@comcast.net


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Long time listener, 1st time writer...
Maybe I've got it all wrong but, if you "push an ever increasing population into a confined area" people might be more inclined to not drive? Call me un American but, there are lots of alternatives to sitting behind the steering wheel of your car.
It seems to work pretty well in Europe.
Doug Shanks

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 Matt wrote:
 "political" decision to conserve our land, many places that are
currently enjoyable to ride in would be significantly less so.
You mean like the Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument where you can only
enter on foot now and will be fined if you ride your mountain bike?

 If it weren't for Oregon's limiting of urban sprawal, I'd be forced to spend more time biking
 through and past subdivisions and shopping malls.
So, your desire to have peaceful rides is more important than another
person's property rights? FORCED? Does someone MAKE you ride through
subdvisions? Why don't you hop on the mass transit until you get on the
outskirts of town and then ride?

 Sometimes it seems like people here don't realize how nice the Urban
Growth Boundary makes it for us bicyclists.
Yeah, I love it. The more we push an ever increasing population into a
confined area, we get more traffic, pollution, and disease. I love coughing
for hours after a nice ride through an urban area.

 year the sprawal creeps a few more miles outward, devouring once
peaceful farmland and diminishing the bicycling experience.
That "peaceful farmland" is supposed to be a business if you are not aware
of that. Unfortunately, most farms are very unprofitable, except perhaps
wineries and that is not a proven commodity for Oregon yet. Limited urban
growth boundaries are taking away people's rights to do with their land as
they wish (within reason). I am certain a family holding acreage, (some of
which has been in families for generations) and can ONLY FARM IT, are not
too concerned about your interests in the "bicycling experience." It is
more likely they are killing themselves trying to keep the County from
foreclosing due to ever increasing property taxes while faced with ever
decreasing farm income.

Before you talk about how great stripping people of their property rights is
for your interests, perhaps you should think of the impact it has on the
property owners, unless of course you want to buy the land yourself.

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<P>Long time listener, 1st time writer...</P>
<P>Maybe I've got it all wrong but, if you "push an ever increasing population into a confined area" people might be more inclined to not drive? Call me un American but, there are lots of alternatives to sitting behind the steering wheel of your car. </P>
<P>It seems to work pretty well in Europe.</P>
<P>Doug Shanks<BR></P>

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