| Subject: | RE: Sellwood Bridge Etiquette |
| Date: | 04/29/2004 03:42 AM |
| From: | Doug Evans |
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C42E05.9AC0363E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The problem is that the motorists don't realize that cyclist are not suppose to ride on the sidewalk. I was recently riding over the bridge on the sidewalk while another guy was on the road. There was a motorist dangerously close to the cyclist trying to scare the cyclist into realizing that he should be on the sidewalk with everyone else. As a side note - I have never seen the sign and didn't know that riding on the sidewalk had been banned. -----Original Message----- From: markjgi-@yahoo.com [mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:17 AM To: ob-@topica.com Subject: [OBRA Chat] Sellwood Bridge Etiquette Sellwood Bridge is controlled by Multnomah County. Laws are enforced on it by Portland Police. The biker walk signs were recently put up b/c county counsel (i.e. the we don't wanna get sued department) was concerned that there could/would be a collision on this seriously undersized path. I've been thinking about just riding on the road way, which is not my favorite choice, but for a faster rider is not unreasonable. Think about how this cuts in half the loop which has been created for the recreational riders who can ride the east side and west side bike esplanades, but now must walk across the bridge to connect the two. Folks who are unhappy with the change to the Sellwood Bridge can write to Matt Larsen, the Multnomah county bike/ped guy. He was in favor of bikers being allowed to ride, but county counsel said no. His email is: matthew.-@co.multnomah.or.us Mark Ginsberg "G. Hill" <nwm-@yahoo.com> wrote: =========================================================== Empower your Team with Remote Access. GoToMyPC Pro provides your organization with instant remote access to email,files, applications and network resources in real time. FREE TRIAL: http://click.topica.com/caab6auaVxiDpa2k2qEa/ ExpertCity =========================================================== It's against the law to ride your bike on the sidewalk of the Sellwood Bridge. It is posted at the bridge by Portland Police that you have to walk you bike across. -----Original Message----- From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:52 AM To: 'nate-@hotmail.com'; ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Sellwood Bridge Etiquette =========================================================== Graduate in less than 13 months with AIU's Online virtual campus. Classrooms and student service as close as your computer. Highly accredited, study anytime - anywhere. http://click.topica.com/caab6anaVxiDpa7W2q8a/ AIU =========================================================== I think you are allowed to push them in the river! :) -----Original Message----- From: nate-@hotmail.com [mailto:nate-@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:14 AM To: ob-@topica.com Subject: [OBRA Chat] Sellwood Bridge Etiquette =========================================================== Sign up to get FREE information from leading colleges! Compare degrees, admissions, financial aid and more. Study your career education options at Collegeinformation.info. http://click.topica.com/caab8K7aVxiDpa5fErIa/ College Info =========================================================== What is the etiquette when you encounter another cyclist while crossing the Sellwood bridge using the sidewalk? I've always thought that the cyclist who has already crested the middle of the bridge (regardless of direction) and is heading down has the right of way and the uphill cyclist should slow/stop and move as close to the rail as possible. What do you think? Is there a written or an unwritten rule? Nate =========================================================== Empower your Team with Remote Access. GoToMyPC Pro provides your organization with instant remote access to email,files, applications and network resources in real time. FREE TRIAL: http://click.topica.com/caab6auaVxiDpa5fErIf/ ExpertCity =========================================================== To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com =========================================================== Let University of Phoenix make 2004 your year. Evening, weekend or FlexNetR classes - over 130 locations. 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There was a motorist dangerously close to the cyclist trying to scare the cyclist into realizing that he should be on the sidewalk with everyone else.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=515501416-29042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=515501416-29042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As a side note - I have never seen the sign and didn't know that riding on the sidewalk had been banned.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> markjgi-@yahoo.com [mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:17 AM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Sellwood Bridge Etiquette<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Sellwood Bridge is controlled by Multnomah County. Laws are enforced on it by Portland Police.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The biker walk signs were recently put up b/c county counsel (i.e. the we don't wanna get sued department) was concerned that there could/would be a collision on this seriously undersized path.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've been thinking about just riding on the road way, which is not my favorite choice, but for a faster rider is not unreasonable.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Think about how this cuts in half the loop which has been created for the recreational riders who can ride the east side and west side bike esplanades, but now must walk across the bridge to connect the two.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Folks who are unhappy with the change to the Sellwood Bridge can write to Matt Larsen, the Multnomah county bike/ped guy. He was in favor of bikers being allowed to ride, but county counsel said no. His email is: <FONT face=Verdana size=1><A href="mailto:matthew.-@co.multnomah.or.us">matthew.-@co.multnomah.or.us</A> </FONT></DIV> <P><FONT face=Verdana size=1>Mark Ginsberg</FONT></P> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"G. Hill" <nwm-@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">===========================================================<BR>Empower your Team with Remote Access. GoToMyPC Pro <BR>provides your organization with instant remote access to <BR>email,files, applications and network resources in real <BR>time. FREE TRIAL:<BR>http://click.topica.com/caab6auaVxiDpa2k2qEa/ ExpertCity<BR>===========================================================<BR><BR>It's against the law to ride your bike on the sidewalk of the Sellwood<BR>Bridge. It is posted at the bridge by Portland Police that you have to<BR>walk you bike across.<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com] <BR>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:52 AM<BR>To: 'nate-@hotmail.com'; ob-@topica.com<BR>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Sellwood Bridge Etiquette<BR><BR>===========================================================<BR>Graduate in less than 13 months with AIU's Online virtual <BR>campus. Classrooms and student service as close as your <BR>computer. Highly accredited, study anytime - anywhere.<BR>http://click.topica.com/caab6anaVxiDpa7W2q8a/ AIU<BR>===========================================================<BR><BR><BR><BR>I think you are allowed to push them in the river! :)<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: nate-@hotmail.com [mailto:nate-@hotmail.com] <BR>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:14 AM<BR>To: ob-@topica.com<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Sellwood Bridge Etiquette<BR><BR><BR>===========================================================<BR>Sign up to get FREE information from leading colleges!<BR>Compare degrees, admissions, financial aid and more.<BR>Study your career education options at <BR>Collegeinformation.info. <BR>http://click.topica.com/caab8K7aVxiDpa5fErIa/ College Info<BR>===========================================================<BR><BR><BR>What is the etiquette when you encounter another cyclist while crossing <BR>the Sellwood bridge using the sidewalk? I've always thought that the <BR>cyclist who has already crested the middle of the bridge (regardless of <BR>direction) and is heading down has the right of way and the uphill <BR>cyclist should slow/stop and move as close to the rail as possible. What<BR><BR>do you think? Is there a written or an unwritten rule?<BR><BR>Nate<BR><BR>===========================================================<BR>Empower your Team with Remote Access. GoToMyPC Pro <BR>provides your organization with instant remote access to <BR>email,files, applications and network resources in real <BR>time. FREE TRIAL:<BR>http://click.topica.com/caab6auaVxiDpa5fErIf/ ExpertCity<BR>===========================================================<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org<BR>To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com<BR><BR>===========================================================<BR>Let University of Phoenix make 2004 your year. 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