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Subject: Sellwood Bridge Etiquette
Date: 04/29/2004 03:42 AM
From: markjgi-@yahoo.com

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Sellwood Bridge is controlled by Multnomah County. Laws are enforced on it by Portland Police.

The biker walk signs were recently put up b/c county counsel (i.e. the we don't wanna get sued department) was concerned that there could/would be a collision on this seriously undersized path.

I've been thinking about just riding on the road way, which is not my favorite choice, but for a faster rider is not unreasonable.

Think about how this cuts in half the loop which has been created for the recreational riders who can ride the east side and west side bike esplanades, but now must walk across the bridge to connect the two.

Folks who are unhappy with the change to the Sellwood Bridge can write to Matt Larsen, the Multnomah county bike/ped guy. He was in favor of bikers being allowed to ride, but county counsel said no. His email is: matthew.-@co.multnomah.or.us

Mark Ginsberg


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It's against the law to ride your bike on the sidewalk of the Sellwood
Bridge. It is posted at the bridge by Portland Police that you have to
walk you bike across.


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I think you are allowed to push them in the river! :)


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What is the etiquette when you encounter another cyclist while crossing
the Sellwood bridge using the sidewalk? I've always thought that the
cyclist who has already crested the middle of the bridge (regardless of
direction) and is heading down has the right of way and the uphill
cyclist should slow/stop and move as close to the rail as possible. What

do you think? Is there a written or an unwritten rule?

Nate

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<DIV>Sellwood Bridge is controlled by Multnomah County. Laws are enforced on it by Portland Police.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The biker walk signs were recently put up b/c county counsel (i.e. the we don't wanna get sued department) was concerned that there could/would be a collision on this seriously undersized path.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've been thinking about just riding on the road way, which is not my favorite choice, but for a faster rider is not unreasonable.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Think about how this cuts in half the loop which has been created for the recreational riders who can ride the east side and west side bike esplanades, but now must walk across the bridge to connect the two.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Folks who are unhappy with the change to the Sellwood Bridge can write to Matt Larsen, the Multnomah county bike/ped guy. He was in favor of bikers being allowed to ride, but county counsel said no. His email is: <FONT face=Verdana size=1><A href="mailto:matthew.-@co.multnomah.or.us">matthew.-@co.multnomah.or.us</A> </FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT face=Verdana size=1>Mark Ginsberg</FONT></P>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"G. Hill" <nwm-@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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cyclist while crossing <BR>the Sellwood bridge using the sidewalk? I've always thought that the <BR>cyclist who has already crested the middle of the bridge (regardless of <BR>direction) and is heading down has the right of way and the uphill <BR>cyclist should slow/stop and move as close to the rail as possible. What<BR><BR>do you think? Is there a written or an unwritten rule?<BR><BR>Nate<BR><BR>===========================================================<BR>Empower your Team with Remote Access. GoToMyPC Pro <BR>provides your organization with instant remote access to <BR>email,files, applications and network resources in real <BR>time. FREE TRIAL:<BR>http://click.topica.com/caab6auaVxiDpa5fErIf/ ExpertCity<BR>===========================================================<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org<BR>To unsubscribe send to
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