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Date: 02/25/2004 03:28 AM
From: Cheryl Willson


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Sorry all, you should just navigate yourself. Go to:
http://www.wada-ama.org/

Click on "Athlete's Corner" in the left hand navigation and then click
on the area that you're interested in.


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 From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov
Date: February 25, 2004 3:03:24 PM PST
To: cjwil-@mindspring.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?

Cheryl,
those links don't work.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl J. Willson [mailto:cjwil-@mindspring.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:01 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Fwd: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?


This is the WADA site: http://www.wada-ama.org



The "Athlete's Corner" includes the prohibited list and information
on therapeutic use exceptions.

Prohibited List as PDF is here:
http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t3.asp?p=41510

Therapeutic Use info: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t2.asp?p=41572





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From: "Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com>

Date: February 25, 2004 2:51:25 PM PST

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?

Reply-To: george.-@pacificorp.com



Advair, Flovent and Albuterol are all permitted medications, but a
form must be filed.  The from must be completed by your doctor and
then you send it to WADA.  You are supposed to keep a copy of the form
you filed with you at all races to demonstrate compliance if you are
tested.  Failure to file the form or have a copy of the filed from
with you, can subject you to the same penalties as exist for illegal
drugs.



If you go to the USA cycling website and find the section on drugs, it
will link you to the WADA site and you can get a copy of the form and
mailing instructions.



You will find that Advair or Flovent will make a significant
difference throughout the day and will prevent most attacks, but you
still should carry albuterol as you can still have an attack.



        George Schreck

         Phone: (503) 813-7211

          Fax: (503) 813-7190






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From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM

To: thob-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?





that should be easy enough to get if your doctor put you on the stuff.
Especially since asthma can be life threatening.



-----Original Message-----

From: Tony Hobkirk [mailto:thob-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?





It should be noted that most asthma medications are restricted by WADA

regulations.  I am by no means an expert, but in general, I believe one

needs a medical certificate on file to compete while using them.



Not sure where OBRA stands on this.





Nicholas Perera wrote:

 
 Hey Keith, the great thing about inhaled steroids is
 that they are being delivered exactly where you need
 them. Before the advent of inhaled steroids serious asthmatics had to
 take prednisone pills which can cause (among many other things) an
 increase in body fat and muscle breakdown. Steroids for asthma are not

 in the same class as the steroids you hear about
 weightlifters (or cyclists) taking to gain muscle
 mass. In general the dose one takes with inhaled
 steroids is too low to notice systemic ("whole-body")
 side effects. If you're worried about this, swish and
 gargle some water after puffing and spit it out, this
 will reduce the amount of drug you end up swallowing.
 I've been taking advair (the same drug, fluticasone,
 with salmeterol, a long acting bronchodilator) for
 years and have only noticed an improvement in my
 cycling. Be sure to continue to carry your albuterol
 (ventolin or other brand) inhaler with you though in
 case you have a "breakthrough" asthma attack. The
 steroid inhaler does not work well in case of an acute
 attack.
 -Nick
 
 --- "Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
  Hello:
  
  I was an asthmatic from age 5 to age 19. I have not
  had any attacks until
  just this past summer at age 33. They have
  become worse since October of '03. Needless to say
  this put a damper on my
  cycling and was even difficult to even pick
  up my son at times as I would be out of breath.
  After suffering form months
  and having attacks that lasted for
  days I decided to see my doctor. She prescribed a
  inhaled corticosteroid
  called Flovent. I do 2 puffs in the morning
  and 2 at night and since starting on  this
  medication have not had on e
  single attack or sign of bronchial constriction.
  And feel 100% better. I have also not noticed any
  side effects and am quite
  peased with what it is doing even though I
  am not crazy about being on medication of any kind.
  While I feel that I have found a 'miracle drug' I
  wonder what long term
  effects it might have particularly as an athlete.
  
  If anyone in OBRA land has had experience with
  asthma, Flovent or any other
  asthma medication I would love to hear your
  stories.
  
  Thank You,
  
  Keith Prior
  
  Team Los Ciclistas
 
 
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 Case Western Reserve University
 School of Medicine
 http://home.cwru.edu/~nmp8
 
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Sorry all, you should just navigate yourself. Go to:
http://www.wada-ama.org/


Click on "Athlete's Corner" in the left hand navigation and then click
on the area that you're interested in.



Begin forwarded message:


<excerpt><bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>From:
</color></bold>Steve-@clark.wa.gov

<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Date:
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</color></bold>cjwil-@mindspring.com

<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Subject: </color>RE: [OBRA
Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?

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This is the WADA site: http://www.wada-ama.org




The "Athlete's Corner" includes the prohibited list and information
on therapeutic use exceptions.


Prohibited List as PDF is here:
http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t3.asp?p=3D41510


Therapeutic Use info: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t2.asp?p=3D41572






Begin forwarded message:




<bold>From:</bold> "Schreck, George" <<george.-@pacificorp.com>


<bold>Date:</bold> February 25, 2004 2:51:25 PM PST


<bold>To:</bold> ob-@topica.com


<bold>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA =
land?</bold>


<bold> Reply-To:</bold> george.-@pacificorp.com




<smaller>Advair, Flovent and Albuterol are all permitted medications,
but a form must be filed.=A0 The from must be completed by your doctor
and then you send it to WADA.=A0 You are supposed to keep a copy of the
form you filed with you at all races to demonstrate compliance if you
are tested.=A0 Failure to file the form or have a copy of the filed from
with you, can subject you to the same penalties as exist for illegal
drugs.</smaller>=20




<smaller>If you go to the USA cycling website and find the section on
drugs, it will link you to the WADA site and you can get a copy of the
form and mailing instructions.</smaller>=20




<smaller>You will find that Advair or Flovent will make a significant
difference throughout the day and will prevent most attacks, but you
still should carry albuterol as you can still have an
attack.</smaller>=20




<smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 George Schreck</smaller>=20


<smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Phone: (503) 813-7211</smaller>=20


<smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Fax: (503) 813-7190</smaller>=20







<smaller>-----Original Message-----</smaller>=20


<smaller>From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov
=
[<color><param>0000,0E0E,E0E0</param>mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov</color=
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<smaller>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM</smaller>=20


<smaller>To: thob-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com</smaller>=20


<smaller>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA
land?</smaller>=20






<smaller>that should be easy enough to get if your doctor put you on
the stuff. Especially since asthma can be life threatening.</smaller>=20




<smaller>-----Original Message-----</smaller>=20


<smaller>From: Tony Hobkirk
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[<color><param>0000,0E0E,E0E0</param>mailto:thob-@hotmail.com</color>]<=
/smaller>=20


<smaller>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM</smaller>=20


<smaller>To: ob-@topica.com</smaller>=20


<smaller>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA
land?</smaller>=20






<smaller>It should be noted that most asthma medications are
restricted by WADA</smaller>=20


<smaller>regulations.=A0 I am by no means an expert, but in general, I
believe one</smaller>=20


<smaller>needs a medical certificate on file to compete while using
them.</smaller>=20




<smaller>Not sure where OBRA stands on this.</smaller>=20






<smaller>Nicholas Perera wrote:</smaller>=20


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<smaller>> Hey Keith, the great thing about inhaled steroids
is</smaller>=20


<smaller>> that they are being delivered exactly where you
need</smaller>=20


<smaller>> them. Before the advent of inhaled steroids serious
asthmatics had to</smaller>=20


<smaller>> take prednisone pills which can cause (among many other
things) an</smaller>=20


<smaller>> increase in body fat and muscle breakdown. Steroids for
asthma are not</smaller>=20


<smaller>> in the same class as the steroids you hear about</smaller>=20


<smaller>> weightlifters (or cyclists) taking to gain muscle</smaller>=20=



<smaller>> mass. In general the dose one takes with inhaled</smaller>=20


<smaller>> steroids is too low to notice systemic
("whole-body")</smaller>=20


<smaller>> side effects. If you're worried about this, swish
and</smaller>=20


<smaller>> gargle some water after puffing and spit it out,
this</smaller>=20


<smaller>> will reduce the amount of drug you end up
swallowing.</smaller>=20


<smaller>> I've been taking advair (the same drug,
fluticasone,</smaller>=20


<smaller>> with salmeterol, a long acting bronchodilator)
for</smaller>=20


<smaller>> years and have only noticed an improvement in my</smaller>=20


<smaller>> cycling. Be sure to continue to carry your
albuterol</smaller>=20


<smaller>> (ventolin or other brand) inhaler with you though
in</smaller>=20


<smaller>> case you have a "breakthrough" asthma attack. The</smaller>=20=



<smaller>> steroid inhaler does not work well in case of an
acute</smaller>=20


<smaller>> attack.</smaller>=20


<smaller>> -Nick</smaller>=20


<smaller>></smaller>=20


<smaller>> --- "Keith A. Prior" <<toka-@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > Hello:</smaller>=20


<smaller>> ></smaller>=20


<smaller>> > I was an asthmatic from age 5 to age 19. I have
not</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > had any attacks until</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > just this past summer at age 33. They have</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > become worse since October of '03. Needless to
say</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > this put a damper on my</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > cycling and was even difficult to even pick</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > up my son at times as I would be out of breath.</smaller>=20=



<smaller>> > After suffering form months</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > and having attacks that lasted for</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > days I decided to see my doctor. She prescribed
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<smaller>> > inhaled corticosteroid</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > called Flovent. I do 2 puffs in the morning</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > and 2 at night and since starting on=A0 this</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > medication have not had on e</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > single attack or sign of bronchial
constriction.</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > And feel 100% better. I have also not noticed
any</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > side effects and am quite</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > peased with what it is doing even though I</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > am not crazy about being on medication of any
kind.</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > While I feel that I have found a 'miracle drug'
I</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > wonder what long term</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > effects it might have particularly as an
athlete.</smaller>=20


<smaller>> ></smaller>=20


<smaller>> > If anyone in OBRA land has had experience with</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > asthma, Flovent or any other</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > asthma medication I would love to hear your</smaller>=20


<smaller>> > stories.</smaller>=20


<smaller>> ></smaller>=20


<smaller>> > Thank You,</smaller>=20


<smaller>> ></smaller>=20


<smaller>> > Keith Prior</smaller>=20


<smaller>> ></smaller>=20


<smaller>> > Team Los Ciclistas</smaller>=20


<smaller>></smaller>=20


<smaller>></smaller>=20


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<smaller>> ------------------------------------------------</smaller>=20


<smaller>> Nicholas Perera=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0</smaller>=20


<smaller>> Case Western Reserve University</smaller>=20


<smaller>> School of Medicine</smaller>=20


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