| Subject: | RE: Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land? |
| Date: | 02/25/2004 03:28 AM |
| From: | Schreck, George |
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FBF1.DB960D54 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Advair, Flovent and Albuterol are all permitted medications, but a form must be filed. The from must be completed by your doctor and then you send it to WADA. You are supposed to keep a copy of the form you filed with you at all races to demonstrate compliance if you are tested. Failure to file the form or have a copy of the filed from with you, can subject you to the same penalties as exist for illegal drugs. If you go to the USA cycling website and find the section on drugs, it will link you to the WADA site and you can get a copy of the form and mailing instructions. You will find that Advair or Flovent will make a significant difference throughout the day and will prevent most attacks, but you still should carry albuterol as you can still have an attack. George Schreck Phone: (503) 813-7211 Fax: (503) 813-7190 -----Original Message----- From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM To: thob-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land? that should be easy enough to get if your doctor put you on the stuff. Especially since asthma can be life threatening. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Hobkirk [mailto:thob-@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM To: ob-@topica.com Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land? It should be noted that most asthma medications are restricted by WADA regulations. I am by no means an expert, but in general, I believe one needs a medical certificate on file to compete while using them. Not sure where OBRA stands on this. Nicholas Perera wrote: Hey Keith, the great thing about inhaled steroids is that they are being delivered exactly where you need them. Before the advent of inhaled steroids serious asthmatics had to take prednisone pills which can cause (among many other things) an increase in body fat and muscle breakdown. Steroids for asthma are not in the same class as the steroids you hear about weightlifters (or cyclists) taking to gain muscle mass. In general the dose one takes with inhaled steroids is too low to notice systemic ("whole-body") side effects. If you're worried about this, swish and gargle some water after puffing and spit it out, this will reduce the amount of drug you end up swallowing. I've been taking advair (the same drug, fluticasone, with salmeterol, a long acting bronchodilator) for years and have only noticed an improvement in my cycling. Be sure to continue to carry your albuterol (ventolin or other brand) inhaler with you though in case you have a "breakthrough" asthma attack. The steroid inhaler does not work well in case of an acute attack. -Nick --- "Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com> wrote: Hello: I was an asthmatic from age 5 to age 19. I have not had any attacks until just this past summer at age 33. They have become worse since October of '03. Needless to say this put a damper on my cycling and was even difficult to even pick up my son at times as I would be out of breath. After suffering form months and having attacks that lasted for days I decided to see my doctor. She prescribed a inhaled corticosteroid called Flovent. I do 2 puffs in the morning and 2 at night and since starting on this medication have not had on e single attack or sign of bronchial constriction. And feel 100% better. I have also not noticed any side effects and am quite peased with what it is doing even though I am not crazy about being on medication of any kind. While I feel that I have found a 'miracle drug' I wonder what long term effects it might have particularly as an athlete. If anyone in OBRA land has had experience with asthma, Flovent or any other asthma medication I would love to hear your stories. Thank You, Keith Prior Team Los Ciclistas ===== ------------------------------------------------ Nicholas Perera Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine http://home.cwru.edu/~nmp8 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. 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If you believe that you have received this email in error, please contact the sender, delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. ============================================================================== ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FBF1.DB960D54 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2657.73"> <TITLE>RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Advair, Flovent and Albuterol are all permitted medications, but a form must be filed. The from must be completed by your doctor and then you send it to WADA. You are supposed to keep a copy of the form you filed with you at all races to demonstrate compliance if you are tested. Failure to file the form or have a copy of the filed from with you, can subject you to the same penalties as exist for illegal drugs. </FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>If you go to the USA cycling website and find the section on drugs, it will link you to the WADA site and you can get a copy of the form and mailing instructions.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>You will find that Advair or Flovent will make a significant difference throughout the day and will prevent most attacks, but you still should carry albuterol as you can still have an attack.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2> George Schreck</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> Phone: (503) 813-7211</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> Fax: (503) 813-7190</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [<A HREF="mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov">mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov</A>] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: thob-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>that should be easy enough to get if your doctor put you on the stuff. Especially since asthma can be life threatening.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Tony Hobkirk [<A HREF="mailto:thob-@hotmail.com">mailto:thob-@hotmail.com</A>] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: ob-@topica.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>It should be noted that most asthma medications are restricted by WADA </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>regulations. I am by no means an expert, but in general, I believe one </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>needs a medical certificate on file to compete while using them.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Not sure where OBRA stands on this.</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Nicholas Perera wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Hey Keith, the great thing about inhaled steroids is</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> that they are being delivered exactly where you need</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> them. Before the advent of inhaled steroids serious asthmatics had to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> take prednisone pills which can cause (among many other things) an </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> increase in body fat and muscle breakdown. Steroids for asthma are not</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> in the same class as the steroids you hear about</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> weightlifters (or cyclists) taking to gain muscle</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> mass. In general the dose one takes with inhaled</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> steroids is too low to notice systemic ("whole-body")</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> side effects. If you're worried about this, swish and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> gargle some water after puffing and spit it out, this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> will reduce the amount of drug you end up swallowing.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I've been taking advair (the same drug, fluticasone,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> with salmeterol, a long acting bronchodilator) for</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> years and have only noticed an improvement in my</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> cycling. Be sure to continue to carry your albuterol</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> (ventolin or other brand) inhaler with you though in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> case you have a "breakthrough" asthma attack. The</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> steroid inhaler does not work well in case of an acute</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> attack.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -Nick</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --- "Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com> wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Hello:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > I was an asthmatic from age 5 to age 19. I have not</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > had any attacks until</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > just this past summer at age 33. They have</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > become worse since October of '03. Needless to say</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > this put a damper on my</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > cycling and was even difficult to even pick</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > up my son at times as I would be out of breath.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > After suffering form months</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > and having attacks that lasted for</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > days I decided to see my doctor. She prescribed a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > inhaled corticosteroid</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > called Flovent. I do 2 puffs in the morning</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > and 2 at night and since starting on this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > medication have not had on e</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > single attack or sign of bronchial constriction.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > And feel 100% better. I have also not noticed any</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > side effects and am quite</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > peased with what it is doing even though I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > am not crazy about being on medication of any kind.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > While I feel that I have found a 'miracle drug' I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > wonder what long term</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > effects it might have particularly as an athlete.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > If anyone in OBRA land has had experience with</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > asthma, Flovent or any other</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > asthma medication I would love to hear your</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > stories.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Thank You,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Keith Prior</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Team Los Ciclistas</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> =====</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Nicholas Perera </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Case Western Reserve University</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> School of Medicine</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <A HREF="http://home.cwru.edu/~nmp8" TARGET="_blank">http://home.cwru.edu/~nmp8</A></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> __________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Do you Yahoo!?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Yahoo! 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