| Subject: | RE: Portland area road conditions: the gravel! |
| Date: | 01/20/2004 03:21 AM |
| From: | Pat Sagers |
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----=_NextPart_ST_09_39_38_Tuesday_January_20_2004_1819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In Bend, we get to ride on ground up lava rock mixed with melting ice. The way we deal with it is to go skiing, usually skate skiing, until it's better. Others train indoors till the weekend and then drive to the outskirts of town to begin the ride. I use some really wide ugly tires, fendors and a mirror. I'm watching the mirror constantly for every opportunity to move out into the road where all the rock has been pushed away. I notice a lot of folks here use their older second bike or a cyclocross bike to train on. It's usually only bad for 2-3 months. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Keith A. Prior [mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM To: obra Subject: [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel! Going to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train on. I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the bike lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to have it all swept up in time but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered? Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep? I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could all write letters or make phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get it cleared up. Thanks All, Keith Prior Los Ciclistas To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com ----=_NextPart_ST_09_39_38_Tuesday_January_20_2004_1819 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=447222917-20012004>In Bend, we get to ride on ground up lava rock mixed with melting ice. The way we deal with it is to go skiing, usually skate skiing, until it's better. Others train indoors till the weekend and then drive to the outskirts of town to begin the ride. I use some really wide ugly tires, fendors and a mirror. I'm watching the mirror constantly for every opportunity to move out into the road where all the rock has been pushed away. I notice a lot of folks here use their older second bike or a cyclocross bike to train on. It's usually only bad for 2-3 months.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=447222917-20012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=447222917-20012004>Pat</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Keith A. Prior [mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM<BR><B>To:</B> obra<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>G<SPAN class=937075118-19012004>oing to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train on.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the bike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>have it all swept up <EM>in time</EM> but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep? </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>all write letters or make</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get it cleared up.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Thanks All,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Keith Prior</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Los Ciclistas</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. 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