| Subject: | Re: Portland area road conditions: the gravel! |
| Date: | 01/19/2004 03:21 AM |
| From: | Dan H. |
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C3DEE0.3B9EA880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tom, I haven't carried a patch kit for about 20 years. I carry 2 tubes and a spare folder and just about never need them! Who wants to sit on the side of the road with wet, frozen fingers and try to patch a tire? Forget it! ----- Original Message ----- From: THOMAS HOFFMAN To: toka-@ix.netcom.com ; obra Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel! Went out tonight for the first time since the storm blew in. I was cover in the black gooey road grime. That sandy crap that gets into everything. It took my 20 minutes to clean the shower after I was done. Yeah, get good tires, and FULL fenders! If I had ridden to work and walked in that slimy, my boss would have shot me. Full Fenders would have helped. And don't forget the patch kit. I convinced that you only get flats when you leave it at home, or at least that is my experience. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith A. Prior To: obra Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel! Going to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train on. I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the bike lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to have it all swept up in time but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered? Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep? I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could all write letters or make phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get it cleared up. Thanks All, Keith Prior Los Ciclistas To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.comTo respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C3DEE0.3B9EA880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom, I haven't carried a patch kit for about 20 years. I carry 2 tubes and a spare folder and just about never need them!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Who wants to sit on the side of the road with wet, frozen fingers and try to patch a tire? Forget it!</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=t.h-@verizon.net href="mailto:t.hoff-@verizon.net">THOMAS HOFFMAN</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=t-@ix.netcom.com href="mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com">toka-@ix.netcom.com</A> ; <A title-@topica.com href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">obra</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 19, 2004 9:39 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Went out tonight for the first time since the storm blew in. I was cover in the black gooey road grime. That sandy crap that gets into everything. It took my 20 minutes to clean the shower after I was done. Yeah, get good tires, and FULL fenders! If I had ridden to work and walked in that slimy, my boss would have shot me. Full Fenders would have helped. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And don't forget the patch kit. I convinced that you only get flats when you leave it at home, or at least that is my experience.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom</FONT></DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=t-@ix.netcom.com href="mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com">Keith A. Prior</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title-@topica.com href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">obra</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>G<SPAN class=937075118-19012004>oing to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train on.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the bike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>have it all swept up <EM>in time</EM> but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep? </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>all write letters or make</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get it cleared up.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Thanks All,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Keith Prior</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Los Ciclistas</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. 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