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Subject: Re: Portland area road conditions: the gravel!
Date: 01/19/2004 03:21 AM
From: Josh

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Keith , I rode all last week out in Washington Co , and the roads and
bike lanes seemed pretty damm clean to me , so maybe you get some riding
in over here


Dan H. wrote:

 Keith, two words: Specialized Armadllos.

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     *From:* Keith A. Prior <mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com>
     *To:* obra <mailto:ob-@topica.com>
     *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM
     *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!

     Going to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the
     very roads we commute and train on.
     I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training
     routes and 90% of them have the bike
     lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that
     dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to
     have it all swept up /in time/ but if it does not interfere with
     motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in
     their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I
     wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be
     considered?
     Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep?
      
     I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike
     less than that so I don't know what it was like the
     last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last
     time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or
     was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it
     away. Also...is there a way we could all write letters or make
     phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders
     cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just
     cut our wonderful
     city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get
     organized and get it cleared up.
      
     Thanks All,
      
     Keith Prior
     Los Ciclistas

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Keith , I rode all last week out in Washington Co , and the roads and
bike lanes seemed pretty damm clean to me , so maybe you get some
riding in over here <br>
<br>
<br>
Dan H. wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Keith, two words: Specialized
Armadllos.</font></div>
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    <a href="mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com"
title="toka-@ix.netcom.com">Keith A. Prior</a> </div>
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style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
    <a href="mailto:ob-@topica.com" title="ob-@topica.com">obra</a> </div>
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Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM</div>
    <div
style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>
[OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!</div>
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    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2">G<span class="937075118-19012004">oing
to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we
commute and train on.</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">I went
out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and
90% of them have the bike</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">lane
or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded
gravel. I have heard that the city plans to </span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">have
it all swept up <em>in time</em> but if it does not interfere with
motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in </span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">their
little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will
the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered?</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Will
all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep? </span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004"></span></font></font></font></span> </div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">I have
only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that
so I don't know what it was like the </span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">last
time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How
long did it take them to get it cleaned up or</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">was it
just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is
there a way we could </span></font></font></font></span><span
class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font
size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">all write letters or make</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">phone
calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of
course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">city
some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get
it cleared up.</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004"></span></font></font></font></span> </div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Thanks
All,</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004"></span></font></font></font></span> </div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Keith
Prior</span></font></font></font></span></div>
    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font
color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Los
Ciclistas</span></font></font></font></span></div>
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