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Subject: RE: Anti-bicyclist letter in Friday's Oregonian (A& E
Date: 08/25/2003 03:03 AM
From: HOYER,BROOKE (HP-Vancouver,ex1)

Mr. Hill,

I would challenge at least three statements Mr. Seitz made:

1) Bicycles don't cut it for commuting. I have driven a car to work 4 times
this year.
   I have cycled 143 times. I am not unique or particualrly hardcore. Oh
yeah, my
   commute is 6 miles each way -- but it is rare that I ride less than 18
miles on my
   way to work in the morning, even in the winter.

2) Cycling is a solitary pursuite. It my be an individual activity, but is
needn't be
   solitary. If you can't find someone to ride with, you just aren't
looking very
   hard.

3) Cycling is bad for your health. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

The primary problem with the letter is that it feeds into a negative
attitude about all cyclists. If a motorist sees a reckless driver on the
road, that driver would probably think that person shouldn't be on the road.
If a motorist sees a reckless cyclist on the road, that driver would most
likely think that ALL cyclists shouldn't be on the road.

After the Bridge Pedal, I was riding home while towing my daughter in the
Burley. I was obeying all traffic laws. I was riding in a predictable
manner. And some middle-aged guy honked his horn at me, gave me a dirty
look and shook his fist at me. And his wife was in the car! I don't want
people who don't know what they are talking about writing letters to the
editor that will ultimately inflame those kinds of reactions in people.





-----Original Message-----
From: Mathew Hill [mailto:mhi-@symantec.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:14 AM
To: cur-@rivercitybicycles.com
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Anti-bicyclist letter in Friday's Oregonian (A& E
section)

Aside from his opinion in the third-to-last paragraph, and his incorrect
assumption on stress to joints in the second-to-last paragraph, the rest of
his points on bicycles are right on. His main point is obey the traffic
laws. For the most part cyclists do, but it is the arrogant (or stupid) few
that ignore basic rules of the road, like yielding the right of way and
stopping at a stop sign that cause the majority of problems and therefore
make the news and therefore give cyclists as a whole a bad name. I think
his statement in the last paragraph is dead-on. "I can share the rod with
courteous bikers, but I don't like the unpredictable nature of some bikers.
If you want to share the road, live up to the responsibility of obeying the
laws of the road. Otherwise stay on the sidewalk and out of traffic." As a
cyclist and a driver, I agree.




Curt Dewees

<curtd@rivercitybi        To:       ob-@topica.com

cycles.com>               cc:

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Anti-bicyclist letter in Friday's Oregonian (A& E
section)        
08/24/2003 04:16PM

Please respond to curtd




Hi, OBRA friends,

On Aug. 15, John Foysten of the Oregonian wrote a piece in the A&E section
about Portland's bike culture. Nothing shocking, just a few highlights about
some of the more bizarre and interesting aspects of Portland's wildly
diverse biking scene.

One week later, the Oregonian A&E published a single letter in response to
that article. It was from a Mr. Steve Seitz, Northwest Portland (a person
whom I don't know). Here is his letter, unabridged. What makes it
particularly insidious is that, although it obvious that Mr. Seitz hates
bicyclists, he claims to be a one! (It soon becomes clear, however, that he
isn't the type of bicyclist that we are!) Here is his letter:

[Headline] "Unplug Pedal Power."

"Regarding "A place for every pedaler" ("Out There," by John Foyston, A&E,
Aug. 15): Let's face facts. Bikes are a nuisance. The people who ride them,
for the most part, think they deserve the respect of motor vehicles while
having to obey none of of the same restrictions that motor vehicles deal
with. Look no further than arrogant bikers ignoring the stop signs at
four-way stops because they would actually have to lose momentum by
stopping.

"Don't get me wrong. I love bikes. I biked everywhere when I was a kid. They
are a cute toy. Recently, I went on a 60-mile bike ride (while gaining 2,000
feet in elevation) near the North Fork of the Middle Fork of the Willamette
River. Now, as an adult who commutes to work, a bike simply will not cut it.

"For many months out of the year, Oregon is not a fun place to ride a bike.
We have lots of rainy days and some cold weather. I can't drop by the store
on my way home from work and pick up groceries for my family while riding a
bike. I can't give the football team a ride to practice with my bike. I
can't take my family with me to the pumpkin patch or the the U-cut Christmas
tree farm on a bike.

"Aside form tandem bikes and teams practicing for competition, the act of
biking is a solitary activity. It is telling that as our culture gets more
and more self-centered and detached from family we see the rise of all these
biking organizations.

"People actually think that they are doing something healthy or themselves
by biking. While it's true that their cardiovascular system may benefit from
self-propulsion, the limited range of motion and repetitive stress on joints
caused by biking can actually do more harm than good.

"I can share the rod with courteous bikers, but I don't like the
unpredictable nature of some bikers. If you want to share the road, live up
to the responsibility of obeying the laws of the road. Otherwise stay on the
sidewalk and out of traffic."

Steve Seitz
Northwest Portland


(Note: I couldn't find a telephone listing for a Steve Seitz in NW Portland,
and a Google search on the computer didn't turn up anything, either. There
is a telephone listing for a "Stephen Seitz" in SW Portland, but that seems
to be a common enough name that I will assume it it not the same person who
wrote the letter.)

There are so many factual errors in this person's letter that I almost don't
know where to begin to respond. But I am going to take the time to respond
because I think it is very important that Oregonian readers see how wrong
this person is. I hope you will, too.

Please help me out by writing a letter in response to the Oregonian,
cataloging at least one or two of the serious factual errors that this
person has made. I believe that if we send enough letters that provide a
fact-based and logical rebuttal to this person's woefully misguided letter,
the Oregonian will be compelled to publish a response from at least one or
two of us!

Please also CC. the BTA with your response so they will have a record of
what has been submitted to the O.

Here's where to send your response:

email: ar-@news.oregonian.com

USPS:

Arts
The Oregonian
1320 SW Broadway
Portland OR 97201

Be sure to include your name and daytime phone number (for verification
purposes only).

Thanks,

Curt Dewees
River City Bicycles
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