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Subject: Re: road conditions
Date: 07/31/2003 03:00 AM
From: Marc San Soucie

Here is what I received from Washington County after my email to them a week
ago. I'll give Wash Co. credit for doing better than they used to do. This
is fairly aggressive post-sealing action. But the old bugbear of "functional
classifcation" and "built to standards" is used quite frequently to wave off
responsibility for pro-active consideration of impact to bicycles and
pedestrians. "Later", it means. Procedures have improved a fair bit,
fundamental policy only slightly.

Keep your elected officials educated about your concerns. It does pay off,
gradually.

    Marc


Thank you for your email about chip sealing West Union Road. I appreciate
your concerns about this road. While West Union Road is shown on the County
Bicycle System Map, it is not built to the standards required to be a
bicycle-friendly road. Until it is built to those standards, we must
maintain it in an acceptable condition using appropriate methods for roads
of its functional classification. Chip sealing is a proven, cost-effective
preventive maintenance surface treatment that helps to extend public
resources County-wide. In the professional judgment of our road maintenance
management team, chip seal is the appropriate treatment for this road at
this time.

The chip seal placed on West Union yesterday is not the end of this
maintenance treatment. The road will be swept the day after the
application. Unlike some chip seals the County did in the past, the road
will then be swept again a few days later and fog sealed, a process which
will reduce loose aggregate and create a smoother surface than would
otherwise result from just the chip seal alone. Finally the road will be
restriped in approximately the same locations as before.

I would ask you to please wait until the entire maintenance treatment
process has been completed to see how this road will turn out.

Your comments have been shared with the road maintenance management team.
We appreciate your input and will continue to look for opportunities to
improve the maintenance of Washington County's roads for bicycles as well as
other traffic.

If you have further questions, please feel free to contact me.

Victoria Saager
Washington County Department of Land Use & Transportation
Operations & Maintenance Division
Management Analyst II - Public Information Officer
1400 SW Walnut St, MS 51
Hillsboro, OR 97123-5625
phone: 503-846-7616
fax: 503-846-7620
email: victoria-@co.washington.or.us
website: http://www.co.washington.or.us



----- Original Message -----
From: <Steve-@clark.wa.gov>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] road conditions


 Just as an aside. They recently did this to one of my favorite road in
Clackamas county and I was very unhappy about it. I then went on a ride that
 traversed this road again a couple of weeks later and they had finished it
off by rolling it out and sealing it, which made the road rideable again and
 almost pleasant. I think the graveling may be the first step in redoing the
 road without actually repaving it. There is hope even if they mess it up
temporarily.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:Bike-@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:50 PM
To: Edwardw-@aol.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road conditions


Also the West side of Germantown road has been oil and graveled, could be a
 rough ride going down the hill.
T

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