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Subject: Re: Alfalfa shrine
Date: 05/30/2003 02:47 AM
From: Steve Brown

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First, this sounds like an urban legend. Second, if you cannot see far
enough ahead of your vehicle to be able to stop if there is something in the
road you are traveling too fast. This is common sense and old drivers manual
stuff.

Steve Brown


on 5/28/03 11:05 PM, John Judy at john_-@attbi.com wrote:

While it's sad that this persons wife died because she was incapable of
operating a motor vehicle correctly, it's no excuse for a very public and
very violent threat to cyclists. His display is sick and so is he. I find
it incredible and depressing that this sort of thing is tolerated anywhere.
It's not artwork, it's an attempt to intimidate and incite violence. There
very fact that he uses his automobile as a billboard advocating violence
against legal, legitimate road users would be reason enough to deny him use
of the road in any sane, just environment.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cary Mallon [mailto:car-@gorge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:29 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alfalfa shrine

I thought someone would beat me to it, but it hasn't happened so I feel I
must clarify about the car sculpture with the mangled bike on the front. It
truly does say 'I road in the middle of the road' on the side, but more
explanation is necessary. The guy who put it there had this incentive- His
wife was driving that road which is popular with cyclists when she came
around a bend to find three riders abreast in her lane. In avoiding them,
she went off the road and rolled her car.
I don't believe the creator of this 'artwork' is out looking for cyclists to
run over, but wants the riders of that road to understand sharing and that
what we do does have risk, even when we're out there with caring drivers.
Be careful out there.
cary
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First, this sounds like an urban legend.  Second, if you cannot see far enough ahead of your vehicle to be able to stop if there is something in the road you are traveling too fast. This is common sense and old drivers manual stuff.<BR>
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Steve Brown<BR>
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on 5/28/03 11:05 PM, John Judy at john_-@attbi.com wrote:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="2">While it's sad that this persons wife died because she was incapable of operating a motor vehicle correctly, it's no excuse for a very public and very violent threat to cyclists.  His display is sick and so is he.  I find it incredible and depressing  that this sort of thing is tolerated anywhere.  It's not artwork, it's an attempt to intimidate and incite violence.  There very fact that he uses his automobile as a billboard advocating violence against legal, legitimate road users would be reason enough to deny him use of the road in any sane, just environment.<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From:</B> Cary Mallon [mailto:car-@gorge.net] <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:29 PM<BR>
<B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Alfalfa shrine<BR>
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</FONT>I thought someone would beat me to it, but it hasn't happened so I feel I must clarify about the car sculpture with the mangled bike on the front.  It truly does say 'I road in the middle of the road' on the side, but more explanation is necessary.  The guy who put it there had this incentive- His wife was driving that road which is popular with cyclists when she came around a bend to find three riders abreast in her lane.  In avoiding them, she went off the road and rolled her car.  <BR>
I don't believe the creator of this 'artwork' is out looking for cyclists to run over, but wants the riders of that road to understand sharing and that what we do does have risk, even when we're out there with caring drivers.  <BR>
Be careful out there.<BR>
cary<BR>
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